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Paradise Kava
@Paradise Kava
01/04/11 05:38:11
3 posts

Aloha! Our bitter tasting product needs some guidance to turn tasty!


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, & Techniques

Thanks for the reply Nat.

What if I add the water to the fully made chocolate along with granulated white sugar and cook it for a while as I whisk it around in a double boiler? you think shelf life is still compromised?

Our kava product is CO2 extract based so no problems there.

I am working with finished chocolate and totally agree on staying away from powdered sugar with the anti caking corn powder in it.

However, I hear there is a powdered sugar with no corn powder added.

Will try and find that and play with it.

Thanks again!

Paradise Kava
@Paradise Kava
01/04/11 01:44:54
3 posts

Aloha! Our bitter tasting product needs some guidance to turn tasty!


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, & Techniques

thanks so much for your reply Jo.

I was skeptical about adding water to that chocolate to tell you the truth and my hunch proved right, thanks for confirming.

I like the mac nut butter idea and will look into it.

My vision is to keep this product as simple as possible with minimal ingredients.

Play a game with me Jo and let's trade hats for a second.

You have a bitter paste, it's REALLY bitter, and chocolate reduces the punishment of consuming it when mixed into the kava. Phew! But it's still so bitter you try to sweeten the 73% cacao chocolate (you WANT to keep it local even though it's getting hard to get custom supply for this stuff)

So you say, alright, I'll try a non Hawaiian chocolate to move things along!

Which chocolate would you try and experiment with?

What does this chocolate taste like, and what's the ideal cacao % to start playing with and is there a consistancy you are looking for?

Price per pound is not really a consideration at this point.Not if the kava get's it's soul mate in chocolate!

I am going to guess it's border line milk chocolate (least amount of cacao % before it gets into dairy - you want a vegan product for maximum shelf life and since this is a health food store product) .

Thanks for indulging me Jo,

A. Ghiasi

Paradise Kava
@Paradise Kava
01/03/11 17:18:02
3 posts

Aloha! Our bitter tasting product needs some guidance to turn tasty!


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, & Techniques

Aloha!

Thank You for having us on the forum! Great to be here! We are choco-lovers albeit novices at working with this amazing medium.

My wife and me are kava growers on the Big Island of Hawaii. Kava is a relaxing antianxiety agent. This bitter tasting root has been used in Polynesia for over over three Millenia.

We have been experimenting to find ways to make our kava more palletable and came up with a kava chocolate paste (73% cacao. Hawaiian made chocolate)

Because the chocolate is not sweet enough, we put it in a double boiler and added raw sugar to it and whisked it about. The granules refused to melt so I was forced to add a tiny amount of water and this totally worked and the chocolate gathered a sheen and thickness and turned beautiful! We cooked the water off and were left with an outstanding chocolate paste to which we can add our kava.

Here are some questions, comments and concerns we have:

a) By doing what I did above, are we lowering the shelf life of our chocolate (if left at room temp - ingredients are only cacao masse, coconu oil, sugar with vanilla.)? We are hoping for a one year shelf life at room temp if possible (the added kava is totally stabilized)

b) The final product is very hard after the chocolate cools. A serving size of our product is 1/4 tea spoon (or a gram) and this makes it very hard to get a dose as one is fighting with a tiny spoon to get a tiny mount out! TO soften this product for easy access, we added coconut oil. Our question is if we can add something more effective which is dairy free, shelf stable. If it is not flavored, this is a plus, but slight flavor is acceptable. Any ideas?

c) For such a bitter product, we feel a lower cacao % a better option. We feel the only problem with this is that the additional cacao butter will harden the product even more! What can be done here for a smoother, softer dairy free product which is not as bitter?

d) Do you prefer any citrus oils from a particular vendor online? Cost is not a consideration as we are trying to produce the finest artisan kava product.

Mahalo Nui Loa for reading this post and helping out!

Aloha from the Big Island

A. Ghiasi


updated by @Paradise Kava: 04/10/15 15:23:04