Chocolate and water do mix

Omar Forastero
@omar-forastero
09/09/11 07:06:51
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The article is indeed misleading. Sounds like they are using water as a selling point to portrait a unique product. Thank you for the in depth reply Clay.

Also Brad, I've included water a few times to broken ganaches earlier in my career. It was the best way to fix them by gradually adding and whisking. Works well.

Cheers,

O

Brad Churchill
@brad-churchill
09/08/11 21:17:02
527 posts

I'd like to add something here too. There is a fallacy about a simple drop of water being added to chocolate to cause it to sieze. This is not necessarily the case - although it's a good scare tactic for beginners! If done properly, water can be added to properly tempered chocolate in order to speed the thickening process for working with. When one really thinks about it, chocolate is by nature very hygroscopic - it readily absorbes moisture from its environment.

It's common for chocolate to equalize somewhat to the relative humidity of the area in which it's being stored/used. This is why it's hard to work with chocolate in humid climates, and areas like Belgium and here in Alberta are great for working with chocolate as it's very dry both in Belgium and here.

Try it sometime: take a couple of lbs of tempered chocolate, and carefully pour a couple of teaspoons of water into it while stirring vigorously. It'll thicken very quickly, but still temper just fine.

Cheers.

Brad

Clay Gordon
@clay
09/08/11 08:07:23
1,680 posts

Water-based ganaches are nothing new - I have personally known about them (and have made them) for at least six or seven years. I have also known people who have been making them for a lot longer (it's where I learned about them). So Damian Allsop is not at the vanguard of anything - he's just doing a good job of PR in a market that is unaware of the history of this area.

Cream has a flavor, and while fats do a good job of transporting flavor, the flavor of the cream (and other dairy) will mask other flavorings in the ganache. The fat in the dairy helps with emulsification, so it requires more work to create a stable emulsion with just water. Immersion blenders are just the trick here - doing it by hand is not the way to go.

One thing the article got wrong was the idea of a chocolate and water shell. There is no reason to do this and, technically, it won't work. Another thing the article confuses is conflating ganaches with mousses. There's no reason to add egg to a ganache. Most knowledgeable people will know that, but people with less experience might try to figure out how to add eggs to a ganache.

Another thing to consider is the solvent used to extract flavoring.

Take a cinnamon stick, for example. You'll get different flavor components with water, oil, and alcohol extractions that can deliver a far more expressive version of cinnamon than any one (and water is the one on the tongue). If I were working on a new cinnamon-scented water-based ganache I would look to blend my own extract of cinnamon from a variety of solvents. This technique can be applied to any number of herbs and spices.




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Omar Forastero
@omar-forastero
09/07/11 22:59:44
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awesome Clay thank you.What do you think of this product? Seems to me like more of a chocolate dish to be served in restaurants. But why would the taste be stronger with water rather than with cream or any other product?
Clay Gordon
@clay
09/07/11 09:32:58
1,680 posts
Omar - the link was broken so I fixed it and rearranged the post so that something showed up in the description on the front page.


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Omar Forastero
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09/06/11 22:58:50
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Anyone tried this before?

Water-based chocolates create 'far superior' flavors

Love to hear your comments, gang.


updated by @omar-forastero: 04/21/15 00:17:26

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