Kitchen Aid Panning Attachment For Sale
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$650 new, asking $400 + shipping. Stainless steel, includes stand. Located in New York.
updated by @Kristofer Kalas: 06/29/23 16:49:02
$650 new, asking $400 + shipping. Stainless steel, includes stand. Located in New York.
The 3-phase machine will be more energy efficient when compared with a single-phase machine, and because of the way they are built, 3-phase motors are likely to be more robust than single-phase motors. A 3-phase machine could also potentially be less expensive than a single-phase machine.
This assumes that the location you are in has 3-phase 220V power installed.
If it does (and you have the space in your panel) - it always makes sense to go for the 3-phase machine. If you do not have 3-phase installed, it is almost always cheaper to go with a single-phase machine than to either a) get 3-phase installed, or b) get a rotary phase converter.
Getting 3-phase installed can cost tens of thousands of dollars and take months and months and is often (in my experience) up to the whim of the local electric company. While it might be nice to use a static phase converter, because of the changing reactive loads in the tempering machine (compressor, heaters, stop/start of motors), a static phase converter is not the best choice. Rotary phase converters can easily cost well over $1000 (depending on the loads in the tempering machine) which is lots of kilowatt hours of electricity. So - you have to weigh the lifetime savings cost against the CapEx of the phase converter.
Note that you do have to let your equipment supplier know in advance which you need - as the power cord used to connect to the supply will be different. The cord in a 3-phase machine will have four wires, whereas a single-phase machine will have just three wires, and you need to wire the plug, socket, and panel accordingly. Because code.
You can always connect a single-phase machine to a 3-phase panel, the reverse is not true.
Clay, were one to run a single phase and three phase tempering machine side by side, would you expect to see any difference in operation?
As you say 'robust' and 'energy efficient,' are we only discussing the cost of electricity and length of life in the motor? Or is the usage affected in some other way?
Hi Diana,
I am interested in your machine. Please let me know if it is still for sale.
Kind regards,
Kristofer
I suggest using a warming cabinet
http://www.moldart.be/chocolate_heating
for future cleaning. Once you use your molds once, and turn out your chocolate, just don't return them to the water from there. They should be fine.
These may be water marks left over from washing your molds. We never wash our molds in water; we simply heat, wipe and polish. Do you have especially hard water where you live? Take a look at your molds and see if you can spot the water marks.
If you want to go the other route (and invest 25K) -Selmi Micron Ball Refiner is what we use.
Hi Sally,
The Kitchen-Aid attachment, provided you already own a Kitchen-Aid, is a great way to get started. It is fun and inexpensive, and allows you to try out the process before making a bigger investment. Stand-alone panning machines can cost, as far as I know, upwards of $3000-$4000 and don't do much larger a volume than the attachment, which costs between $500-$750. And personally, I would rather get multiple attachments if I could spend the 3/4k, because it would allow you to process different flavors at the same time.
The detractor of both of these machines is that you don't have a built in heating/cooling unit, the latter of which is very necessary to do a proper product and volume. Chocofreeze is an expensive substitute, but I did use that at times to speed up the process. The next step up is a machine like the Selmi Comfit, which pans around 40kg at a time and costs about $16000, and has a built in air compressor.
The Kitchen-Aid is painfully slow once you realize that you really need to start producing more, and if you factor in time wasted + lesser product quality with the smaller machines, something like the Selmi Comfit begins to seem more and more reasonable financially.
Breakdown:
Kitchen-Aid Attachment-
$500-750 USD
1 kg capacity (finished product)
Stand-Alone (various brands)-
$3000-$4000 USD
2-4 kg capacity (finished product)
Selmi Comfit-
$16000 USD
40-45 kg capacity (finished product)
Hi Meira,
I realize this is a bit late, but I'm still happy to answer your question.
In order to pan products, you must have some sort of specialized machine for it; the Kitchen Aid attachment is a good beginning option and not overly costly. From there, stand-alone panning machines can range in the $3000 - $6000 USD range, or even above to $16,000 or more. When purchasing equipment, consider how much product you would have to sell in order to pay for that machine. A large reason people do not do the process anymore is because larger companies have made it so incredibly cheap to buy, and a small confectionery shop would have to charge significantly higher prices to make a profit. While many people are happy to pay for a quality product, there are 10 times more who either cannot or will not choose that option.
There is no standard recipe for panning, just as there is no standard recipe for caramel, ganache, etc.; each chocolatier or confectioner employs their own unique process depending on what ingredient they want to coat, what they want to coat it in, how they want to finish their product (some products are given a glazed or shiny appearance, others are given a truffled appearance) and the equipment they have available.
That being said, there is a standard process that most follow in order to get a quality product. In addition, to my knowledge there is not a lot of information or literature available on the panning process, and very few people actually perform it nowadays. It is mostly something reserved for large confectionery companies, i.e. Mars, Nestl, etc.
Basic Technical Process:
For sake of example, let's use hazelnuts, however you could use most any nut, or even freeze-dried fruits like bananas, raspberries or blueberries.
That is the basic, and by basic I mean fairly complex and intricate, process. It represents only a small portion of what you may do with panning products, and as always with chocolate, your imagination is the only limit.
A basic quantity recipe you may start with could be:
400 g hazelnuts
135 g sugar + 45 g water (to caramelize the nuts)
1000 g crystallized chocolate
100 g cocoa powder
One final note on the panning process: some people prefer to use non-crystallized chocolate (and may advise you to do so), at a temperature of about 40C (104F), however we do not. We have found better results with a crystallized product than not, but you may certainly experiment yourself.
Feel free to ask any other questions; I will be happy to answer as best I can.
Kind regards,
Kristofer
If you're hand-dipping square truffles, you'll ideally want to use what's called a 'bottoming mix.' Basically, take 50/50 Cocoa Liquor and Cocoa Butter, mix and melt to about 32-34C, stir and cool to about 29/30C, and apply to the top or bottom of your truffles.
Most often, the easiest way to do this is by taking a pastry brush and brushing the bottom of a piece of parchment, putting your ganache frame on top and finally filling it with your ganache before it is fully set.
The other way to do it would be once your truffles are cut, to place them evenly apart on a tray and spray that bottoming mix through a compressed air system. Of course, if you are doing very low volume, other methods may make more sense (but these are the most time-efficient).