Forum Activity for @Sunita de Tourreil

Sunita de Tourreil
@Sunita de Tourreil
05/22/12 15:37:18
19 posts

Examining a Mast Brothers Assertion


Posted in: Opinion

Do farmers get such high prices for Fair Trade Organic cacao? This price seems more like what you would pay for a superior grade cacao. I was under the impression that FT cacao could bring a premium of about $150 above the commodity price... and I would be surprised to hear that Organic added such a premium to cacao. Assuming a $2-3K per metric tonne price...

My understanding is that paying $5K per metric tonne is a very handsome price. Never mind paying $20-30K per metric tonne.

Sunita de Tourreil
@Sunita de Tourreil
05/22/12 15:29:46
19 posts

Examining a Mast Brothers Assertion


Posted in: Opinion

Well done Scott. I read your series on Noka years ago and thought it was excellent. Congratulations on helping to bring more integrity and transparency to fine chocolate. Exactly why this discussion is important, we need to be consistent about information that goes out to the public, there is so much misinformation around chocolate, we all need to do what we can.

FYI: my business is about doing educational tastings in the SF Bay Area, and I am always learning more about chocolate (aren't we all?) so I appreciate this forum tremendously. I aspire to contribute more here.

Sunita de Tourreil

The Chocolate Garage

Sunita de Tourreil
@Sunita de Tourreil
12/14/11 16:18:58
19 posts

Musee du Chocolat, Strasbourg: any reviews?


Posted in: Chocolate Education

http://www.musee-du-chocolat.com/

Has anyone been to this museum? Is it worth making an effort to go and visit? Is it appropriate for the experienced Chocophile, or only the novice?

Any feedback and thoughts and tips would be appreciated!

Best wishes,

Sunita de Tourreil

The Chocolate Garage

Palo Alto, CA 94301

www.thechocolategarage.com


updated by @Sunita de Tourreil: 04/13/15 01:40:42
Sunita de Tourreil
@Sunita de Tourreil
11/15/11 03:04:37
19 posts

Need an Internship....Any suggestions??


Posted in: Chocolate Education

Thanks Nat for clarifying which San Jose, I was wondering too! Great news that it is the local one (for me). There are many makers in the Bay Area, let's talk to figure out what kind of match would make for a good fit. You can email me directly (through my business website email) or via The Chocolate Life. I have a small chocolate tasting business that works with mostly bean to bar makers, but also some confectioners.

Best wishes,

Sunita

The Chocolate Garage

Palo Alto, CA

www.thechocolategarage.com

Sunita de Tourreil
@Sunita de Tourreil
06/23/11 00:38:49
19 posts

The High Cost of Certification


Posted in: Opinion

Hi Rodney,

Many would argue that cacao is lagging behind coffee in many ways... certainly the kinds of specific relationships you are talking about with coffee suppliers/farmers is also happening with cacao. Shawn Askinosie of Askinosie Chocolate is a great example. He works directly with the farmers, profit shares with them and has other associated projects and commitments to farming communities from whom he buys. Taza is also using Direct Trade as are many other artisan makers.

My hope is that in ten years, these kinds of models and others are taking up more space and accounting for the purchasing of more and more cacao. Unfortunately right now, the makers who are doing the right thing for the farmer and the farming communities are barely a drop in the bucket when it comes to overall chocolate production, but the trend is hopefully in the right direction. This is where education comes in and this is where people who understand some of the complexities and difficulties inherent to Fair Trade *must* speak up and explain what Fair Trade does and does not do.

This kind of education is something I am passionate about doing and currently am doing in Silicon Valley. People are ready for it, and those who are adamant about Fair Trade and third party certification (this was me five years ago) will slowly start to see that there are other ways to address the very real problems they are concerned with and that there are many other models that are doing a better job than Fair Trade (IMHO).

Tip for effective chocolate education: People are more receptive to chocolate education when you also feed them (what I call) " Happy Chocolate ". I start with the theoretical and move into the applied in the same session, this keeps people's attention and really has a positive and lasting impact. ;)

Sunita de Tourreil
@Sunita de Tourreil
06/15/11 09:19:24
19 posts

Artisan du Chocolat


Posted in: Chocolate Education

On a technical note, is there a way to send a message directly to a member on TCL without being "friends" with them?

Sunita de Tourreil
@Sunita de Tourreil
06/15/11 09:16:47
19 posts

Artisan du Chocolat


Posted in: Chocolate Education

Thanks for responding Clay.

And for the "cocoa liquor" correction. I had thought they were used interchangeably. My bad.

Whatever Gerard is doing with whichever machine, he is making some lovely flavor combinations as well as lovely single origin bars. Hence my interest in knowing more of the story.

Good that you mention that they are TCL members. After some searching I realise that "Artisan" is actually Anne Weyns. I will bring the post to her attention. I have not had good luck with the search function on The Chocolate Life.

Sunita de Tourreil
@Sunita de Tourreil
06/14/11 23:33:50
19 posts

Artisan du Chocolat


Posted in: Chocolate Education

Thank you Masur.

Any idea where their cacao liqueur is being produced? Is single origin liqueur widely available on the market? Or is this something they source specifically for their purposes?

Sunita

Sunita de Tourreil
@Sunita de Tourreil
06/14/11 17:14:44
19 posts

Artisan du Chocolat


Posted in: Chocolate Education

I am wondering if anyone has more information on the practises and sourcing (of cacao bean or liquor?) employed by Artisan du Chocolat.

Their bars are very enjoyable and their inclusion bars are very tasty and reasonably priced. However, I am having a hard time determining whether this company is bean-to-bar? If yes, are all their bars bean to bar? Or only their single origins? Does this company buy cacao liqueur from a third party? Are they working with local folks in country of bean origin to do some value add on site?

From what I gather from their website, their Vietnam bar sounds like it may be processed into cacao liqueur (in Vietnam?) and then conched and refined in Ashford?

from Artisan du Chocolat site:

"Dark chocolate 72% bar made with Vietnamese ground Trinitario cocoa beans, conched and refined at our production in Ashford."

Thank you in advance for anything you might be able to add to this question.

Sunita de Tourreil

The Chocolate Garage


updated by @Sunita de Tourreil: 04/20/15 01:25:55
Sunita de Tourreil
@Sunita de Tourreil
06/14/11 17:04:46
19 posts

The Chocolate Garage: Palo Alto


Posted in: Allow Me to Introduce Myself

Hello everyone,

Clay Gordon asked me moons ago to go ahead and introduce myself, since I own and operate a small chocolate business in Silicon Valley. Somehow time has kept slipping away-- typical of operating a new business I suppose.

I am Sunita de Tourreil, Founder of The Chocolate Garage . I am an enthusiastic supporter of what I call "Happy Chocolate". I have a small business that primarily organizes chocolate tasting events in and around the San Francisco Bay Area. These tastings focus on education (how and where cacao is grown, how chocolate is made) and after leading a blind tasting, I tell the stories behind the chocolate makers. I tend to focus on local artisanal makers who are part of 'Nouveau American' chocolate, redefining the way chocolate is made and pushing the envelope especially in terms of transparency.

Our emphasis is on "Happy Chocolate", by which I mean chocolate that is having a positive impact on both the planet and it's people, especially cacao farming communities. Our mission is to make Happy Chocolate more available and give people ways to make chocolate choices that support and nurture the small farmer and the high quality chocolate industry.

I have found the community that Clay has fostered here at The Chocolate Life invaluable in my own chocolate education and I hope to be able to contribute even a fraction of what I have received from The Chocolate Life.

Sincerely,

Sunita de Tourreil


updated by @Sunita de Tourreil: 04/16/15 04:17:51
Sunita de Tourreil
@Sunita de Tourreil
12/14/10 16:43:04
19 posts

Great chocolate spots in Munich and Strasbourg?


Posted in: Travels & Adventures

I am wondering if any of the members can give some suggestions for where to go in Munich and Strasbourg to sample some fine, artisan chocolate. Can be bean to bar or confections.

Thank you!

Sunita


updated by @Sunita de Tourreil: 04/28/15 12:50:18
Sunita de Tourreil
@Sunita de Tourreil
05/30/10 16:16:06
19 posts

What relationship do high quality, non-artisanal chocolate makers have with the cacao farmers/plantations?


Posted in: Chocolate Education

I want to second this sentiment, this discussion is invaluable to me, especially since I have no experience growing cacao or making chocolate, but want to connect the people who EAT chocolate to the kinds of challenges that are being faced by cacao farmers and chocolate producers. Jim, thank you for sharing so much information on your farm and the struggles with efficiency and survival. This is exactly the kind of transparency I would like to see other producers sharing.Samantha, thank you for sharing your knowledge, both in this post and elsewhere on TCL. I appreciate how thoroughly you answer all questions you address. And the depth of your knowledge.Brian, thanks for your thoughts on direct relationships with the farmers and how this will perhaps automatically improve the results on both sides. You cited your company, what is your company? What kind of chocolate do you make?
Sunita de Tourreil
@Sunita de Tourreil
05/30/10 16:02:32
19 posts

What relationship do high quality, non-artisanal chocolate makers have with the cacao farmers/plantations?


Posted in: Chocolate Education

Correction, just rereading Clay's post, I see UTZ pays for the certification. Sorry about that.
Sunita de Tourreil
@Sunita de Tourreil
05/30/10 15:59:18
19 posts

What relationship do high quality, non-artisanal chocolate makers have with the cacao farmers/plantations?


Posted in: Chocolate Education

I agree that there is this notion that cheap food is a birthright. But, there seems to be a growing trend around paying more for food for intangible reasons. Whether it be organic, local, grown in a humane way, people are paying more to know that their food is healthier, happier, more ethically grown.The conundrum is that an organisation like UTZ is targetting large companies (Coca Cola, Danone, Cargill etc) and that is good. If we can start getting the large companies to make changes to their practises, the impact is very large. BUT, the hard thing is knowing how quickly we can reasonably expect these large companies to change. Of course the smaller players doing the right thing will eventually encourage the larger players to follow... so both are needed I think. Walmart is starting to sell organic products, and yes, there are controversies around industrial organic and the standards, but I think this is at least a move in the right direction. The big companies are hearing that there is a demand for this, now it is up to us to make sure that what is being claimed is actually what is being sold. Next we will develop more sophisticated refinements to what makes for healthy food for people and for our planet.Brings me back to my original question of how do we really know who is doing what? How do we get more transparency in the food chain. Let's stick to chocolate for now, just using organic food as an example.An anecdote: a few weekends ago I was asked by a customer upon telling him the bar he liked cost 8 USD: "Where is the gold in this bar?"I smiled and began to explain to him where the gold was... "it is in the cooperative farm that produced the cacao, it is in the solar powered machinery that is used to make it, it is in the careful fermentation and roasting of the beans, it is in the organic certification..."He insisted he was just joking.
Sunita de Tourreil
@Sunita de Tourreil
05/30/10 15:41:20
19 posts

What relationship do high quality, non-artisanal chocolate makers have with the cacao farmers/plantations?


Posted in: Chocolate Education

Thank you Sebastian for this post. And for helping to start what is turning into a very interesting and fruitful discussion. I was not aware of UTZ certification and after quickly reading the UTZ wikipedia entry it seems that it has some interesting points. One thing that is not clear to me was whether it is the farmers who have to pay for the certification (like in Fair Trade) or how exactly that works. Seems that a combination of the quality control, efficiency standards and training of UTZ would be an interesting addition to Fair Trade. I would agree with Clay's other posts that providing a premium price for beans regardless of quality is a bad idea at best and encourages low quality beans at worst. Fair Trade has a long way to go to get away from the perception that Fair Trade equals low quality. I find myself reluctant to say a bar is Fair Trade, because I feel the assumption is: good story, bad taste.I wholeheartedly agree that the problem needs to be addressed on multiple levels. Communities who are not thriving (or at least managing to do more than survive) are not going to continue growing good quality cacao.As background, my original reason for getting involved in chocolate was because I felt it was a way to address basic health and welfare issues in parts of the world where cacao is grown: clean water, access to basic health care, education, training. I was inspired by a model in Ecuador on the Napo River, run by Douglas McMeekin. Yachana Gourmet and Yachana Lodge were established as businesses to feed a non-profit organisation now called Yachana Foundation and to ensure that the communities working in these two businesses were reaping the benefits of the profits. A health clinic, a primary school and now a technical high school teaching relevant skills have been set up through this group. This to me is an example of good work.The problem is that this is not visible to the average person who is shopping for chocolate at the specialty shop or grocery shop. One of the criticisms of UTZ is that large companies are "greenwashing", or "ethical washing" by using these certifications that are not that effective. How do I know whether the Endangered Species bar is actually doing what they claim to be doing? Short of some serious research I can't know.Which brings me back to my original question: I want to be able to collect reliable data on various producers and how they treat the cacao growers with whom they work. Not everyone is transparent. I want to provide this data to my customers, I want to be able to talk to the folks who come in to do chocolate tastings, and tell them who are the people behind this bar. Who are the people behind growing the cacao, fermenting and drying the cacao, turning it into chocolate bars? I want to be able to tell my customers what the positive selling points of this bar are. Not just in terms of taste, which of course is important, but also, as I like to put it simply and maybe in a bit of a silly way, how happy is this chocolate bar? How much happiness does this bar pack?I would like to believe that on a small scale initially, if I can be reliable with the data I provide, people can have more access to the stories behind the bars. It is my hope that this will affect their purchasing choices.What I am starting to think is that I need to try to build relationships with all of the individual producers and try to suss out for myself who is doing what. This is a herculean task, which is why I was posting this in the first place. The problem with asking others for information is that I don't know how reliable the TCL members are. Not everyone posts who they are, what their background is, who they work for or why they are interested in chocolate or even what their last name is. As I write this I am fully aware that I still need to post more information and background on who I am. And be completely transparent about my involvement with chocolate. And I will as soon as I have some more time.So, I agree with what you are saying and I am wondering if you (or anyone else who is posting here or reading) have any tips on how we can perhaps start collecting this data. How do we make it somewhat objective? Maybe I should start a community database that compiles information on producers in a rigourous and transparent way? Because it seems that the third party certifiers that we currently have are seriously flawed and we need a new way to figure out which producers are doing the ethical thing.I have been running chocolate tastings now since 2004 in the San Francisco Bay Area. We are now taking it to the next level and have rented a space to host chocolate tastings, retail chocolate and serve as a place to educate people about chocolate. The next logical step would then be for my chocolate tasting members who are feeling more connected to the chocolate makers, to start building community with the cacao producers. Organise some trips like Clay has been organising. Go spend time seeing where their favorite bar originated. Get invested in the growers, connect a Palo Alto school to a farming community in a cacao growing community and work together to build a school, or whatever might be most needed by the cacao community. There are lots of possibilities.And lots of questions. Before I write a book, I will stop here and wait for some responses.Apologies to all for taking so long to respond, I have been reading all your responses with great pleasure. Thank you for all the information and for furthering my education. Have I mentioned how happy I am to be part of this great community called The Chocolate Life?
Sunita de Tourreil
@Sunita de Tourreil
05/22/10 03:10:31
19 posts

What relationship do high quality, non-artisanal chocolate makers have with the cacao farmers/plantations?


Posted in: Chocolate Education

And can such a general question even be asked?

I am thinking of companies like Amedei, Bonnat, Cluizel, Domori, Pralus to mention a few. I guess I am asking because I assume that in order to ensure high quality beans, these producers probably work fairly closely with the farmers, but I am wondering whether anyone on TCL can share knowledge about specific makers.

In addition, I am curious whether any of the above mentioned makers source cacao only from plantations, or also from cacao trees that grow among native rainforest species? And, can plantation cacao be free of added chemicals? Especially the more delicate species like criollo?

While I am at it (this perhaps taps into the strings that Clay and others have started about Fair Trade, how useful is it, etc...) do these direct relationships with the farmers result in decent prices for the growers? If yes, which companies?

I know that Shawn Askinosie, for example, works directly with the growers of the cacao he uses and the result is higher than Fair Trade prices and even profit sharing. How common is this among other high quality chocolater makers, especially well established ones in Europe? Is this data out there among fellow TCL members?

I ask all of this because I use various chocolates to create chocolate tasting experiences (and engage and educate people around chocolate) and I like to be able to fairly present the various makers and their strengths. As per Clay's suggestion, I will soon post an introduction to the work I am doing once life permits.

Thank you!

Sunita


updated by @Sunita de Tourreil: 04/22/15 07:40:07
Sunita de Tourreil
@Sunita de Tourreil
02/07/10 23:47:25
19 posts

Chocolatiers = Re-melters?


Posted in: Opinion

From what I hear using "invert sugar" is another way of extending the shelf life of ganache. Wikipedia tells me that invert sugar has lower water activity than sucrose and this is why it imparts a longer shelf life.Not sure what "longer shelf life means". Two months for Joseph Shmidt without preservatives seems surprisingly long. I would love to see their list of ingredients.
Sunita de Tourreil
@Sunita de Tourreil
08/09/11 12:55:55
19 posts

Chocolate on the 101 Between Los Angeles & Oakland


Posted in: Travels & Adventures

You can also call ahead to organise a personalised chocolate tasting to be done at The Chocolate Garage . :) We carry a diverse selection of Happy Chocolates and are open by appointment. We specialize in chocolate tastings and have a "try before you buy" policy.

And, I would also strongly urge you to stop by Monique's Chocolates in Palo Alto, two blocks from The Chocolate Garage to sip on one of their "to die for" hot (or cold) chocolates. Or taste one of their many single origin confections. Mark West is very knowledgeable and happy to talk chocolate.

Chocolate is booming in the Bay Area. :)

Sunita de Tourreil
@Sunita de Tourreil
12/14/10 16:57:01
19 posts

Reclassification of cacao varieties?


Posted in: Opinion

I too am very saddened to lose Samantha Madell as part of this community. Her posts were to me, among the most valuable posts on TCL. I now regret that I had not spent more time reading everything she had written, but I am glad there is a way to retrieve some information via Google's cache.Thank you Clay.