Cool Tool: Chocoflex Spherical Truffle Mold

Brad Churchill
@brad-churchill
05/14/09 14:56:50
527 posts
Brian;Do you have anything like that? You mentioned that Tomric has a mold similar to the chocoflex.... What is the part number?I would love for us to offer a creme caramel truffle center that is consistent with the rest of our truffles....Thanks in advance.Brad.
Brian Donaghy
@brian-donaghy
05/14/09 10:47:46
58 posts
Brad.I-1158 is a polycarbonate injection mould, probably similar to your bar moulds. It is not flexible and we tend not to recommend using these moulds for anything other than chocolate. In order to make perfect spheres, I recommend having two that we can hinge together.brian
Brad Churchill
@brad-churchill
05/14/09 10:08:23
527 posts
Brian;I have Tomric's catalogue and saw a sphere mold (Model #: I-1158 ) in it, and was just wondering:1. Is it a two piece mold?2. Is the mold flexible, so that we could pour in something like creme caramel, let it cool and then pop it out with little effort, such as with a silicone mold?I apologize in advance if the questions seem simple. The only molds we use in our shop currently are bar molds, so I have little experience with them.Thanks.Brad Churchill www.SoChoklat.com
Brian Donaghy
@brian-donaghy
05/14/09 06:31:31
58 posts
There is definitely some recipe tweeking that needs to happen for all of them but my favorite use is pate a fruit in the sphere.b
Clay Gordon
@clay
05/14/09 05:41:52
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Duff - Please respond via private message rather than making your e-mail publicly available.


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Clay Gordon
@clay
05/14/09 05:39:25
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Do you have any tips for use that address any of the questions that ChocolateLIfe members have?


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Brian Donaghy
@brian-donaghy
05/14/09 05:14:53
58 posts
Clay.We carry them at Tomric too.brian
STEFANIA MAFFEIS
@stefania-maffeis
05/14/09 04:41:10
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Hi Duffy,I am Stefania Maffeis - Export Area Manager for company Pavoni Italia (the one selling CHOCOFLEX, PAVOFLEX and other interesting items).Of course, I do love chocolate !!! A reason more for visiting this website!!Back to your request, could you please confirm me your email address so that I can give you all information you need for our products??Hope to hear from you soon, should you want to write to me... please find here my email address: stefania.maffeis@pavonitalia.com.Kind regardsStefania Maffeis
Sarah Hart
@sarah-hart
05/13/09 22:42:50
63 posts
I had similar mixed results with the flat round molds, Melanie, and at $80 plus a pop, I expected better. I have found that if I spray them with a vegetable spray it helps. Opposite to my intuition a creamier ganache works better for me in these than a firmer one. I did try caramels and they came out GREAT, and when I can afford it I will get more just for caramels which we labor many hours over with hand cutting.Robert, I am interested in the freezing step you do. Is that just to remove them? How does it affect the caramels, if it all?thx.
Melanie Boudar
@melanie-boudar
05/13/09 21:03:18
104 posts
I used the square molds and was less than impressed. The corners do not come out clean.The spherical mold is interesting ,but I am not adverse to using premade shells either.For squares to enrobe Its far easier to put your ganache in a square guitar frame. (you can make these at a plastics or steel co inexpensive) and cut your ganache with a very long drywall tool if you don't have a guitar.I freeze it for 20 min and it cuts very clean squares.I also tried an interesting black silicone mat that was for baking interesting shapes. They had one that was long and skinny 1/2 round. The ganache pops out of that much easier than the white silicone. The sticks can be cut into three pieces. The mat has about 40 impressions so 120 piece yield and you have an interesting shape, not just boring squares.
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Duffy Sheardown
@duffy-sheardown
05/13/09 02:33:02
55 posts
Does anybody know of a UK distributor for Pavoni moulds and so on? They haven't replied to my e-mail requests and ordering Italian moulds from America makes no sense, somehow. Lots of nice stuff on their web-site but no apparent means of ordering anything!
Brad Churchill
@brad-churchill
05/12/09 17:27:18
527 posts
Hey Everybody;I stumbled across this thread today while perusing the site.I could see potential if one were using a liquid that hardened, such as a ganache.In our case, we actually whip the cream, and cream the butter before we mix both with chocolate. Then while it's semi-solid we spatula it into tubs to cool and solidify. This considerably aerates the buttercream and makes it very light and fluffy when it reheats to room temperature in the center of the truffle. If we were to heat it to a liquid, such that we could pipe it, all of the light fluffy nature would disappear.Having said that, we hand scoop our truffle centers using small spring loaded dishers (like icecream scoops) to ensure uniformity in weight. Personally, I can portion out and hand roll (just to help shape them) about 300 truffle centers per hour. If I have a staff member rolling them, and I set the pace by dishing, we can achieve about 550-600 per hour. (last count we were at 35,000 truffles sold since opening 8 months ago)The benefit of portioning them with the disher is that they are scooped when the buttercream is cold, thereby ensuring the aeration is kept in tact, and the truffle center is light and silky smooth when enrobed. While this may work, I believe we'll most likely have to stick to hand portioning.This mold system would sure be nice for cream caramel though!!!! It is so popular here, and I hate cutting the stuff! A caramel truffle center would be to DIE for!I'd love to hear if anyone has tried it with hot caramel yet.MMMMMMMmmmmmm......
Luis Dinos Moro
@luis-dinos-moro
05/12/09 14:44:13
15 posts
Hi Sarah,I'm interested in the chocoflex mold. Any update on this?
Sarah Hart
@sarah-hart
01/16/09 17:51:06
63 posts
we got a few of the round flat ones for bon bons. Mixed results getting the ganache out-- found that refrigerating them some helps as does spraying the mold with oil. But I have had mixed satisfaction considering these are $80 a pop. I would like to know what results people get with caramels in them. If they worked for caramel it would be worth it as a guitar doesn't cut caramel and we sell a lot of freaking hand cut ones. This could be a lifesaver.
katiebobus
@katiebobus
01/16/09 10:58:00
6 posts
Well, I tried them out! I loved the spherical mold for getting uniform sized ganache truffles in one step, and was even able to dip them just once, but I had mixed results with the flat squares one - the first ganache I tried in it was too soft, and even freezing it didn't stop it from adhering to the sides. I had to scoop all the ganache out of the holes, which was not cool. A pate de fruit worked great, though, so I think it was just the consistency of the ganache that was the problem. I haven't tried caramel as originally planned, but I will!The round ones are fab (but so expensive!). The flat ones may be a good substitute for a guitar for a small business.
Andy Ciordia
@andy-ciordia
12/28/08 18:09:37
157 posts
The stats show a heat tolerance up to 280 C and it's silicone. You should be fine to do just about whatever you can concoct.I like the idea to save some time but a fixed size doesn't work too well for us. We make a few bulk varieties and then have a number of other intermediaries due to tailoring for some customers. Maybe it could help shorten one chain...I'd like to see a lot of silicone products come down. I'd think by now some have a good grade of industrial process but alas, I guess if the market is content we'll be up the wall.Get back to us Katie, I'd like to know some further thoughts.-a
katiebobus
@katiebobus
12/28/08 14:42:02
6 posts
I just acquired the spherical and square molds, but haven't tried them yet. The bottom of the square mold is thin enough that I think it will be easy to push the centers out. The two other issues I am wondering about are (1) is it safe to pour hot caramel in these? and (2) how easy will it be to leave a uniform amount of space in each of the (square) molds to add a tempered chocolate foot before popping them out? There are no English instructions. The foot is the one element that would seem to be neglected when you never have a block of ganache/filling to cut centers out of. Anyway, I'll get back with my findings as soon as I have more info!
Annette Jimison
@annette-jimison
12/08/08 02:57:07
14 posts
HI Clay,Their website is funny. If you go to an individual page, they all have the same address in the location bar. So, that is why I noted where to fine them in my post. The locator is the heading Tools of the Trade gumpaste/fondant. They don't make it any easier. I tried copying the url and it just shows up as www.sugarcraft.com sorry!
Munira M Bagasrawala
@munira-m-bagasrawala
12/07/08 08:35:16
3 posts
truffles can be done by hand dipped method which requires a lot of patience and trail and error method.
Clay Gordon
@clay
12/06/08 13:06:56
1,680 posts
Annette:There are lots and lots of pages of gumpaste and fondant tools. Any ones in particular that you are recommending? Please use the actual names of the links.Thanks,:: Clay


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Annette Jimison
@annette-jimison
12/06/08 03:36:14
14 posts
There are fondant items that are disposable on the market that do this. I found them at www.sugarcraft.com when I was learning the art of porcelana fria, and making flowers and foliage out of fondant. You can see them on their site under "TOOLS of the TRADE GUMPASTE / FONDANT". Got to be frugal where I can, and these worked great for me.
Chris2
@chris2
12/05/08 16:33:25
3 posts
Thanks, Clay. I couldn't tell from the pictures...I like the molded truffles better than enrobed, and currently use a half-dome mold to make a shell (it's easy to coat & shake out the excess when the whole bottom is open), then funnel in liquid ganache. I've been hoping to find a way to eliminate the step of tempering another batch to cap off the bottoms, but haven't found it yet..... tried some of the rigid magnetic molds last year, but couldn't get them to work well....
John DePaula
@john-depaula
12/03/08 11:29:23
45 posts
That's very interesting. I wonder if the other shapes, e.g. squares, rectangles, come out of the mold as easily as the photos suggest. Sure can't do those truffles on a guitar, though. :-)Looks like a nice tool to have in the arsenal.
Clay Gordon
@clay
12/03/08 06:34:23
1,680 posts
Hey Chris:That's not how these are supposed to be used. There's no way to clamp them tight enough to fill with chocolate and then rotate to fill each cavity with a thin layer and then dump the excess. You deposit the centers and then enrobe some other way.


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Chris2
@chris2
12/02/08 23:25:28
3 posts
Has anyone tried these molds to first create a tempered shell, then fill it with ganache once the shell is hardened?
Teresa Cordero Cordell
@teresa-cordero-cordell
10/09/08 09:24:59
13 posts
How cool is that? But, I think I'll wait until a less expensive version comes out in the market. Till then, I will continue to roll out the truffles the old fashioned way, by hand.
Elaine Hsieh
@elaine-hsieh
09/29/08 10:57:58
25 posts
I would like to invest in a guitar - and wondered if there is a company that sells them used? Any opinions regarding the plastic base vs. aluminum, single vs double, manufacturers?
Clay Gordon
@clay
05/01/08 09:03:58
1,680 posts
Yes. You can purchase the Chocoflex spherical mold (and other Chocoflex molds) at Pastry Chef Central .In addition to the spherical molds there are Chocoflex molds for rounds, squares, rectangles, and ovals . Although they are called ganache molds, you could also do pralines, gelees, fondants, and other centers. Consider also this " depositor ".


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Sarah Hart
@sarah-hart
04/30/08 18:07:56
63 posts
So, I clicked on the link but even when I clicked on "English" I had some trouble understanding the site. Do they have North American Distribution?
Clay Gordon
@clay
04/10/08 05:20:13
1,680 posts
Many chocolatiers like to make perfectly spherical truffles. (Okay, well maybe not perfectly spherical - they have to have a flat bottom so they don't roll around.) Up until now there have generally been two ways to do this:Buy a one-shot depositor (expensive)Buy pre-made shells (cheating? misleading?)Recently, the Italian company Pavoni started a line of silicon molds specifically designed to work with ganaches as an extension to their Pavoflex line of molds for cakes and pastries. They have basic shapes (square, rectangle) that can be used in many environments to replace an expensive guitar cutter, and a circle and oval that replace a "cookie" cutter. To use them, you place the mold on a flat surface (e.g., a sheet pan covered with parchment paper), pipe the ganache into the mold cavities, and with an offset spatula and bench scraper make sure the ganache completely fills the mold cavity and that the top (what will end up as the bottom) is flat.Perhaps the most interesting mold shape, however, is the spherical mold. With it, chocolatiers can make ganache spheres that they can then enrobe, either by hand or on a belt.


Using the Chocoflex Spherical Truffle Mold

As can be seen from the picture above, you simply pipe the filling into the molds, let it crystallize, and then remove the top half of the mold to reveal the finished spheres - ready for the next stage of production.A 2-piece 67-sphere mold set costs $150. Expensive, yes, but far less expensive than a one-shot machine and you'd quickly recoup the costs by not having to buy shells. Plus, the mold is not limited to ganache; anything you can pipe (praline, gelee, fondant) you can use to fill the mold cavities. You can also bake and freeze in them.


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