Chocolate Artist Software/Printer

Debra Fleck
@debra-fleck
04/25/13 14:42:46
32 posts

I think that tomric might have the software. If not then Chocolat-chocolat in Montreal will have it. Purchasing anywhere within North America is fairly easy and straight forward. It's just as easy to order directly from Deco artist in England. Maybe even faster for shipping.

Akua Obenewaa Donkor
@akua-obenewaa-donkor
04/25/13 13:12:10
5 posts

Please can anyone help me where i can buy only the software in the United States? I already have an edible printer

Debra Fleck
@debra-fleck
03/29/13 20:17:19
32 posts

TS02 directly on the printer. Attached are the settings that I use. If the images are sticking to the sheet (partially) then there is too much ink flow. The settings on the attachment are for any canon printer. 1482-sampleprint.JPG 1484-sample2.JPG?width=721 If the ink is flowing to much then change the brightness to LIGHT.

Cesar Jose
@cesar-jose
03/29/13 18:48:24
11 posts

Hi Debra, I already have my canon 4920 and CIS system, chocosheets from HCF. But my first tries were bad. Do you directly use the TS02 on the printer? or stick it on a regular A4. An also do you select normal paper or any other option like transfer or photopaper. Thank you for any direction. On my case between theory and practice there is a big gap :)

Debra Fleck
@debra-fleck
03/13/13 09:08:21
32 posts

There are several companies that can do the customized logos. Chef Rubber, PCB from France, and several other companies.

Eric Normand
@eric-normand
03/13/13 03:00:38
3 posts

I think the logo was printed with the silk screen process with colored cocoa butter.

Glenn Knowles
@glenn-knowles
03/12/13 19:57:58
19 posts

Jim,

My guess is that it's produced by an outside vendor such as Sweet Swiss in Spokane, WA. They've made similar transfer sheets for me with white logos...and the staff there are great to work with. If you find out something different, please let me know as I'd be curious to know how, too!

Glenn

Jim Braunagel
@jim-braunagel
03/12/13 19:38:00
9 posts

I've read quite a bit on this site, but not seen info that would explain how to print the logos found here: http://www.chocolatceleste.com/

Do you know how she has printed a logo with white that only partially cover the surface on dark chocolate?

Cesar Jose
@cesar-jose
02/27/13 16:42:53
11 posts

Thanks! I will make my first tryimmediately I receive my sheets from UK :), on the other hand here I use CIS already in two printers, for regular ink, and there is no brand since those are from China, but for sure price is the best way to choose. You have some that cost like $30 and some of $60, I will go for the costly one. Here is a link with an example: http://articulo.mercadolibre.com.co/MCO-403674573-impresora-multifuncional-canon-mp230-con-sistema-continuo-_JM Actually, I already talked with some people using CIS (no brand) for photoprinting and not problem at all. ;)

Debra Fleck
@debra-fleck
02/26/13 10:12:36
32 posts

I always use a thin layer of white. I use white chocolate and cocoa butter.

100 grams white chocolate and 30 grams cocoa butter is my blend. Depending on what white chocolate you use, you can make minor adjustments.

What CIS system are you using. What brand of CIS are you looking at?


updated by @debra-fleck: 09/07/15 11:15:45
Cesar Jose
@cesar-jose
02/25/13 17:08:43
11 posts

Thank you Debra! Here many photocake and photochocolate businesses are using already the CIS system with good savings. I just order my inks from Kopyk ;) I was wondering if you can advice me if for the tranfers on black chocolate you use a thin white cocoa butter layer on the sheet. I saw that some chocolates are a mix of white (photo) and black, but some are 100% black, what method do you suggest? Best regards

Debra Fleck
@debra-fleck
02/22/13 21:20:42
32 posts

I have used several different brands from the United States. I live in Canada. I've used Icing Images, PhotoFrost, and Kopykake. The best inks for color matching to the original canon inks is Kopykake. The cartridges they use are quite well made. I use the canon mg5320. Canon is always changing their printers so I look for the new models that have the same printhead as whatever model I have. I just bought a new printer last weekend because it (mg5320) was on sale and the price was cheaper than buying a new printhead! I have not purchased the continuous ink system but have done some research in the past for this type of technology. I would be very curious to know how the continuous ink system works for you.

Cesar Jose
@cesar-jose
02/22/13 14:55:47
11 posts

Dear Debra, greetings from Colombia, I read carefully this post and your valuable hints. I was wondering if you can advice me any particular edible ink brand, I am planning to import in bulk since here inks are quite expensive.

Also which Canon model are you using, we dont have all the models but I will try my best and install it aContinuous ink system.

thanks in advance for any direction.

Eric Normand
@eric-normand
02/03/13 08:19:26
3 posts

Thanks for all these dtails Debra. I was already changing the intensity of my prints but still had problems. I willtry the one from Home Chocolate Factory.

Debra Fleck
@debra-fleck
02/01/13 10:55:09
32 posts

Sounds like they are the one made by Deco chocolate artist in England. The spray is too thin and then when you print on them the ink saturates through that thin covering on the sheet. If you press print, the dialog box pulls up. Go into "properties", go to "colour/intensity", click "maual", then go to "brightness" and choose the "light" (will be automatically on normal). That will help reduce the amount of ink being printed. I use these sheets when I have artwork that is very delicate. These transfer sheets work great when they work!! The best solution is to use the ones by "Cake Art Intl". There is an American distributor but I find them to expensive. I purchase from "Home Chocolate Factory" in England. Ask for the trade discount if you are a business. The best size to use is TS02. I find the TS01 has caused me grief in the past. The American distributor even told me the TS02 size is a better quality product.

Eric Normand
@eric-normand
02/01/13 10:26:14
3 posts

I am using transfer sheets made with starch and sugar for chocolates, same as the one sold by Tomric. I frequently have this problem: The ink stays partially on the transfer sheet so I have to make new printshave to trow awaya lot of material.

Does anyone have experienced this problem and if you did, did you find a solution?

Thanks! ric

Debra Farnum
@debra-farnum
01/29/13 17:58:38
5 posts

What a life saver you are....I've spent the last several days working on this, going crazy. The Edible Artist software did the trick. I had download the Chocolate Artist originally but couldn't print and the Deco software works with these saved files...Thank You, Thank You, Thank You..

I can't tell you how much I appreciated your advice, :))

Debra Farnum
@debra-farnum
01/29/13 17:53:16
5 posts

Thanks Glenn. I checked with Tomric and they are no longer carrying the product. I am now in the process of downloading the InDesign program....Thanks for the help :)) Deb

Debra Fleck
@debra-fleck
01/29/13 14:53:54
32 posts

It is worth it to buy the USB stick. Deco artist also has the cake software which is free. If you download the Edible Artist software, scroll way down in the template page and you will see all the template shapes. Just make sure it matches what you need.

Glenn Knowles
@glenn-knowles
01/29/13 14:11:47
19 posts

Deb,

I bought my USB stick/key fob from Tomric in New York. Check to see if they any more. Alternatively you can make a template pattern in Adobe InDesign to match your molds.

Good luck!

Glenn

Debra Farnum
@debra-farnum
01/29/13 13:00:57
5 posts

Hi

I'm looking for templates for my choc. molds, specifically the heart (DCRPDR9013) & the oval (11271). Other than making my own (last resort) I was hoping that someone might already have some templates that they would like to share, possibly?

I have looked into the Chocolate Artist Software, and apparently that has been discontinued according to Chocolate World/Deco UK (plus it was ridiculously priced). I was able to download the software but I need a USB stick to print, perhaps someone has one that they might like to sell?

Any help would be appreciated,

Thanks

Deb

Solis Lujan
@solis-lujan
07/26/12 22:55:11
26 posts

Has anyone use gold metallic ink transfers on dark chocolate?

Debra Fleck
@debra-fleck
07/23/12 07:48:01
32 posts

These can be used just like any other transfer sheets you would buy ie. PCB, Chef Rubber etc. You do need to use a white backing to make your image show. If not the image gets lost in the dark chocolate.

Dianne Trinque
@dianne-trinque
07/23/12 00:42:48
3 posts

Can this program be used to make my own chocolate transfer sheets to be used on hard ganaches, or is it something that is strictly used with magnetic molds? If this program doesn't have that capability, is there any other program that can do that?

david roberts
@david-roberts
06/07/12 13:49:56
11 posts

Hi Debra exactly the same ingredients, so must come from the same company these are made in Holland, loads better than the ones from Deco.There called Bobbon sheets on the box.

Debra Fleck
@debra-fleck
06/03/12 12:46:18
32 posts

David, what are the ingredients listed for your chocosheets? I am wondering who Chocolate World is using for their supplier. The cake art sheets are: water, cornstarch, sugar, cocoa butter, citric acid, bamboo fibre, soya lecithin, vanilla flavour.

david roberts
@david-roberts
06/03/12 12:37:54
11 posts

I agree Debra the deco sheets are not the quality you would excpect, being as i purchased a job lot package ( never again ) reading these posts encouraged me to try chocolate world, what a difference.

Debra Fleck
@debra-fleck
06/02/12 21:28:36
32 posts

You cannot airbrush the chocolate-artist (Deco) sheets, but airbrushing the cake art sheets should work. David is right in that "just do what works" and progress as experience comes.

I have done thousands of customized bonbons and I am very disappointed with Deco artists chocosheets. They need to double the spray on the sheets because the ink always saturates the spray then dries and sticks to the sheets.

Glenn Knowles
@glenn-knowles
06/02/12 18:59:12
19 posts

Thanks for the hints. I've tried air brushing white over the transfer sheets without success, so have found the white chocolate option to be the most effective.

Best,

Glenn

david roberts
@david-roberts
06/02/12 13:43:54
11 posts

To be honestDebra once i master the art of the airbrush etc then i will go down the road of white chocolate and cocoa butter, it seems to work for you, just trial and error i suppose i just find the melts at the mo straight forwards no tempering required. Only been going since January so still a novice. If you do use the melts Glenn dont slake them down with cocoa butter, theres no need,put the melts in mould in lieu of the white choc and let it set takes around 5-7 mins, then pour the flavoured chocolate in, pop in the fridge for around 40 mins, i then pop them for 5 mins in freezer, the reason i do this is the melts do not shrink as much as chocolate in the fridge. then demould as normal


updated by @david-roberts: 09/07/15 11:15:39
Debra Fleck
@debra-fleck
06/02/12 12:34:34
32 posts

If you are making a high end product, then the candy melts compromise the product. Compound chocolate is fine if the product is run of the mill quality. I blend white chocolate with cocoa butter and just plain everyday light oxidizes the white chocolate and the creamy yellow goes white. I use to add white coloured cocoa butter and realized it was a waste of time.

Glenn Knowles
@glenn-knowles
06/02/12 12:00:42
19 posts

That looks great! I'll have to try some of the melts. Right now I use white chocolate and blend a little bit of white cocoa butter to lighten the colour from yellowish that most white chocolate couverture is.

david roberts
@david-roberts
06/02/12 11:51:30
11 posts

Hi Glenn i use super white candy melts from merckens, i tried the ones from wilton but did not find the picture was perfect plus did not taste as good. once i get my head around this site will upload some pics. This was one of my earlier efforts but as you can see the picture is so clear.

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Jan van Poortvliet
@jan-van-poortvliet
05/22/12 14:19:48
5 posts
Hi Debra, have you noticed that this blemishing takes place in winter? I've had no problems up until now. The cracking is very hard to avoid as you can not keep thr metal sheets on the right teperature, they cool down very fast. How do you do this?Cheers Jan
Glenn Knowles
@glenn-knowles
05/15/12 14:07:51
19 posts

That's interesting, Dave, as I have been using it exclusively on white chocolate. Which candy melts are you using? I haven't tried them before.

Thank you!

david roberts2
@david-roberts2
05/15/12 13:55:56
2 posts

Hi Deborah could you tell me what the white pcb powder colour is and where i can get it from, im from the uk so it might be called something different over here. Many thanks

david roberts2
@david-roberts2
05/14/12 15:45:15
2 posts

Hi has anyone used candy melts for a clearer picture rather than use white chocolate, i use it quite often and itseems to decant from the deco molds easily, and gives me a brill pic.

Glenn Knowles
@glenn-knowles
08/28/11 12:31:29
19 posts
I get blank sheets from Tomric. Check their catalogue for pricing.For custom pre-printing, try Sweet Swiss Confections in Spokane, WA.
Glenn Knowles
@glenn-knowles
08/28/11 12:24:03
19 posts
The application is windows-based, not for Macs. I had to buy a netbook just for the program. Wish it was for Mac, being a Mac user myself.
Solis Lujan
@solis-lujan
08/28/11 11:37:59
26 posts
Go to my Aug 13 post and see what Ran from Chocolate World said was on their transfer sheets. Powdered sugar is made of very fine milled sugar and corn starch, I assume that is what they used. Let us know if that works...
MARIANNE MCGOWAN
@marianne-mcgowan
08/28/11 11:24:59
2 posts

Hi Jackie,

Could you please tell me where you order the sheets preprinted, how long time does it take and

is there a min order

Thanks

Marianne

Robyn Wood
@robyn-wood
08/27/11 22:49:26
29 posts

I don't do anything special or different than when using the white cocoa butter for anything else. I warm in in the microwave in bursts until it's fluid enough to use with the airbrush. Never checked the temp, but it should be around 90 degrees. I have heard from some that they get it hotter than that because the air brush will "temper" it as it goes through sprayer. Has never worked for me that way. If it's too hot, I usually loose a lot of pieces. After the printed sheet has dried, I just spray over it in a even layer, and let it set until dry. Then mold as usual. I have had some chipping on corners, but haven't figured out what causes it. It's really random, and it hasn't happened much.

I use the Badger 260 sprayer on my compressor just FYI.

Probably not a lot of help, but when I first started playing around with this whole thing, I just jumped in and figured it out as I went.

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